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	<title>Comments on: Why Powered USB Is Needed, Part 1: The Short History of USB</title>
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		<title>By: Sound Cards</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-109875</link>
		<dc:creator>Sound Cards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn’t have said it better myself! Thanks a lot!!!</description>
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		<title>By: serial port</title>
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		<dc:creator>serial port</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 14:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great article, I love your style. All the best green this commentary comes out of England.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great article, I love your style. All the best green this commentary comes out of England.</p>
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		<title>By: Wise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 06:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add to your statement about IBM PC and Apple II's.  The Apple II was introduced in April 1977.  The IBM PC was only introduced in 1981.  Thus, the IBM PC is substantially later than the Apple II.  

Subsequent IBM and Apple computers leapfrogged each other.  In 1983, Apple introduced Lisa while IBM introduced XT.  In 1984, Apple introduced Macintosh with a graphica interface in January 1984.  The IBM AT was added in August 1984 and Windows 1.0 came out in 1985.

From the beginning, Apple computers always bundled state-of-the-art communications.  In the 1980's, serial ports were state-of-the-art.  The Mac Plus was amongst the first computers to incorporate a SCSI port as standard in 1986, as well as 2 ADB and 2 serial ports.  This remained pretty much the standard package until 1999.  The iMac offered 2 USB ports in 1999 and most of the desk top and portable macs offered 2 Firewire ports.  Since 2001, they have offered ethernet 1000Base-T.  Since 2003, Apple has provided USB 2.0 ports and Firewire 800 as standard on all their computers while airport and bluetooth were optional.  By 2004, airport extreme and bluetooth were available on all Macs and standard on some.  Bluetooth 2.0 was available in 2005 and standard by 2006.  A built-in video was standard in 2006.  

The only major competitor to USB is Firewire which now is standard on all Apple, some Dell, and Sony computers.  The original iPod had firewire but switched to USB.  Because Sony video cameras adopted firewire, most major brands of video cameras also include firewire. &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWire" rel="nofollow"&gt;According to Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; the more expensive hardware required for firewire is the main reason why firewire has not displaced USB.  

Firewire can connect up to 63 peripherals and supplies up to 45 watts of power per port at 30 volts, sufficient for moderate-consumption devices.  Firewire 400 and 800 respectively transfer data at 400 and 800 Mbits/sec.  While USB 2.0 can theoretically transmit at 480 Mbits/sec, such speeds are seldom achieved in practice due to the server-client architecture of USB devices.  Firewire provides peer-to-peer network operation and support for memory-mapped devices, which allows full-speed communication.

Firewire is particularly useful for networking computers and high speed transfer of data from one computer to another.  That is why firewire is so popular for digital video.  Firewire connections can also be "hot-swapped" without damaging the attached device.  In the end, the increasing popularity of video will drive development of Firewire and keep it alive.  For example, firewire copyright protection standards have yet to be broken and one of the latest developments is wireless Firewire (&lt;a href="http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=8519" rel="nofollow"&gt;Source&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add to your statement about IBM PC and Apple II&#8217;s.  The Apple II was introduced in April 1977.  The IBM PC was only introduced in 1981.  Thus, the IBM PC is substantially later than the Apple II.  </p>
<p>Subsequent IBM and Apple computers leapfrogged each other.  In 1983, Apple introduced Lisa while IBM introduced XT.  In 1984, Apple introduced Macintosh with a graphica interface in January 1984.  The IBM AT was added in August 1984 and Windows 1.0 came out in 1985.</p>
<p>From the beginning, Apple computers always bundled state-of-the-art communications.  In the 1980&#8217;s, serial ports were state-of-the-art.  The Mac Plus was amongst the first computers to incorporate a SCSI port as standard in 1986, as well as 2 ADB and 2 serial ports.  This remained pretty much the standard package until 1999.  The iMac offered 2 USB ports in 1999 and most of the desk top and portable macs offered 2 Firewire ports.  Since 2001, they have offered ethernet 1000Base-T.  Since 2003, Apple has provided USB 2.0 ports and Firewire 800 as standard on all their computers while airport and bluetooth were optional.  By 2004, airport extreme and bluetooth were available on all Macs and standard on some.  Bluetooth 2.0 was available in 2005 and standard by 2006.  A built-in video was standard in 2006.  </p>
<p>The only major competitor to USB is Firewire which now is standard on all Apple, some Dell, and Sony computers.  The original iPod had firewire but switched to USB.  Because Sony video cameras adopted firewire, most major brands of video cameras also include firewire. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FireWire" rel="nofollow">According to Wikipedia</a> the more expensive hardware required for firewire is the main reason why firewire has not displaced USB.  </p>
<p>Firewire can connect up to 63 peripherals and supplies up to 45 watts of power per port at 30 volts, sufficient for moderate-consumption devices.  Firewire 400 and 800 respectively transfer data at 400 and 800 Mbits/sec.  While USB 2.0 can theoretically transmit at 480 Mbits/sec, such speeds are seldom achieved in practice due to the server-client architecture of USB devices.  Firewire provides peer-to-peer network operation and support for memory-mapped devices, which allows full-speed communication.</p>
<p>Firewire is particularly useful for networking computers and high speed transfer of data from one computer to another.  That is why firewire is so popular for digital video.  Firewire connections can also be &#8220;hot-swapped&#8221; without damaging the attached device.  In the end, the increasing popularity of video will drive development of Firewire and keep it alive.  For example, firewire copyright protection standards have yet to be broken and one of the latest developments is wireless Firewire (<a href="http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/ReadArticle.aspx?ArticleID=8519" rel="nofollow">Source</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: H Vig</title>
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		<dc:creator>H Vig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way back in 1979, the extremely old Atari 400/800 line of computers had a universal serial bus.  It was slow, and had a bulky connector, but this was only 1979.

You connected RS232 ports, printers, floppy drives, and eventually even hard drives to the same serial bus in a daisy chain configuration.

People laughed and said "why would anybody want all those devices to share the same interface?"  It's too slow (which was true, but that was a different problem) and it didn't solve power distribution problems either, but it predated IBM PC's and AT's by many years.  Judging by your article, they were years ahead of their time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way back in 1979, the extremely old Atari 400/800 line of computers had a universal serial bus.  It was slow, and had a bulky connector, but this was only 1979.</p>
<p>You connected RS232 ports, printers, floppy drives, and eventually even hard drives to the same serial bus in a daisy chain configuration.</p>
<p>People laughed and said &#8220;why would anybody want all those devices to share the same interface?&#8221;  It&#8217;s too slow (which was true, but that was a different problem) and it didn&#8217;t solve power distribution problems either, but it predated IBM PC&#8217;s and AT&#8217;s by many years.  Judging by your article, they were years ahead of their time.</p>
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		<title>By: Why Powered USB Is Needed, Part 3: USB 3? &#187; Ad Terras Per Aspera</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-26076</link>
		<dc:creator>Why Powered USB Is Needed, Part 3: USB 3? &#187; Ad Terras Per Aspera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2007 09:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] originally planned the Powered USB article as two parts, one explaining why USB took off, and another explaining why USB isn&#8217;t the best solution because it can&#8217;t power large [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Juha Laiho</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25772</link>
		<dc:creator>Juha Laiho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 18:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Game port adapters (of the DB-15 connector type) were available from IBM for IBM PC, as were the analog joysticks pluggable for them -- and this was far before Creative Labs was around. Which company and when came up with the idea of using the same port for MIDI as well I don't know; that could've been Creative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Game port adapters (of the DB-15 connector type) were available from IBM for IBM PC, as were the analog joysticks pluggable for them &#8212; and this was far before Creative Labs was around. Which company and when came up with the idea of using the same port for MIDI as well I don&#8217;t know; that could&#8217;ve been Creative.</p>
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		<title>By: srjaynes</title>
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		<dc:creator>srjaynes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 05:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to agree that USB is embarassingly incompatible after nearly 10 years of use.  

For storage peripherials, especially when more than one device is connected, Firewire absolutely RULES!   For mice and keyboards, USB 2.0 is OK.

I use both Macs and WIndoze every day.  The Macs have FAR fewer USB problems then the Windoze PCs (mostly IBM and white-box).   As indicated above, the Windoze drivers issues are a shame after nearly 10 years of USB being in use and still being clumsy and having only about a 50% chance of working as plug-and-play.  Needing yet another driver for a simple mouse is just plain wrong!

Just my $.20 worth (adjusted for inflation)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree that USB is embarassingly incompatible after nearly 10 years of use.  </p>
<p>For storage peripherials, especially when more than one device is connected, Firewire absolutely RULES!   For mice and keyboards, USB 2.0 is OK.</p>
<p>I use both Macs and WIndoze every day.  The Macs have FAR fewer USB problems then the Windoze PCs (mostly IBM and white-box).   As indicated above, the Windoze drivers issues are a shame after nearly 10 years of USB being in use and still being clumsy and having only about a 50% chance of working as plug-and-play.  Needing yet another driver for a simple mouse is just plain wrong!</p>
<p>Just my $.20 worth (adjusted for inflation)</p>
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		<title>By: toddlerbob</title>
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		<dc:creator>toddlerbob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 04:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A minor quibble - the Apple II (or, rather, the Apple ][ ) was the first wildly successful home computer. It came before the IBM PC. The IBM PC was the first wildly successful business computer, though Apples were also used in business by that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A minor quibble - the Apple II (or, rather, the Apple ][ ) was the first wildly successful home computer. It came before the IBM PC. The IBM PC was the first wildly successful business computer, though Apples were also used in business by that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Grothe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Grothe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 04:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one part of the history he left out was that in 1998 while most IBM PC's had a USB port, none of the peripheral manufacturers were making USB devices. When Apple announced going to USB, this forced that segment (Mac peripheral market) to go to USB - and it exploded. In a year you had gobs of USB devices, for both the IBM PC's and the Macs. Apple's move made USB take off - we owe the kudos to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one part of the history he left out was that in 1998 while most IBM PC&#8217;s had a USB port, none of the peripheral manufacturers were making USB devices. When Apple announced going to USB, this forced that segment (Mac peripheral market) to go to USB - and it exploded. In a year you had gobs of USB devices, for both the IBM PC&#8217;s and the Macs. Apple&#8217;s move made USB take off - we owe the kudos to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25373</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 01:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As anyone who actually owned one knows, the original IBM-PC had TWO round, 5-pin connectors; one for the keyboard, the other for the Cassette Tape interface, which was the only mass storage available for those without the extra $500+ to own a floppy drive.

The parallel interface was provided on the monochrome video card, if I remember correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As anyone who actually owned one knows, the original IBM-PC had TWO round, 5-pin connectors; one for the keyboard, the other for the Cassette Tape interface, which was the only mass storage available for those without the extra $500+ to own a floppy drive.</p>
<p>The parallel interface was provided on the monochrome video card, if I remember correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 01:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said "Macs introduced the Apple Desktop Bus (ADB) for keyboards and mice, and the Apple IIGS shipped with ADB ports as well."

That's not right. The Apple IIgs shipped with ADB before any Mac shipped with it. The Apple II team saw the ADB standard that had been developed by the Mac team, and decided to use it on the IIgs. It ended up shipping before the Mac SE and Mac II that were the first Macs to use the standard.

You said "none of the ports that served the same function that were used on IBM PCs and Apple computers were compatible with each other "

That's not really true either. An 8-pin mini-din serial port on an Apple IIgs or Mac was electrically compatible with DB-9 or DB-25 serial ports as found on IBM computers. You just needed the correct cable. Also, the 15-pin monitor connectors on both Macs and PC's was electrically compatible; you just needed a DB-15 to HD-15 adapter or cable.


As another poster mentioned, you totally left out the impact that the original iMac had in jumpstarting USB. Since Apple was the only company with the guts to completely drop all legacy ports at one time, users were forced to buy all new USB peripherals. Anyone around in 1998 will remember all of the new USB devices and adapters, all shipped in Apple-like translucent fruit colors. As for PC's, they only stopped putting the PS/2 and parallel ports on machines very recently, even though adapters have been available for nearly a decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said &#8220;Macs introduced the Apple Desktop Bus (ADB) for keyboards and mice, and the Apple IIGS shipped with ADB ports as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not right. The Apple IIgs shipped with ADB before any Mac shipped with it. The Apple II team saw the ADB standard that had been developed by the Mac team, and decided to use it on the IIgs. It ended up shipping before the Mac SE and Mac II that were the first Macs to use the standard.</p>
<p>You said &#8220;none of the ports that served the same function that were used on IBM PCs and Apple computers were compatible with each other &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not really true either. An 8-pin mini-din serial port on an Apple IIgs or Mac was electrically compatible with DB-9 or DB-25 serial ports as found on IBM computers. You just needed the correct cable. Also, the 15-pin monitor connectors on both Macs and PC&#8217;s was electrically compatible; you just needed a DB-15 to HD-15 adapter or cable.</p>
<p>As another poster mentioned, you totally left out the impact that the original iMac had in jumpstarting USB. Since Apple was the only company with the guts to completely drop all legacy ports at one time, users were forced to buy all new USB peripherals. Anyone around in 1998 will remember all of the new USB devices and adapters, all shipped in Apple-like translucent fruit colors. As for PC&#8217;s, they only stopped putting the PS/2 and parallel ports on machines very recently, even though adapters have been available for nearly a decade.</p>
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		<title>By: one of me &#187; the home of paul turnbull &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-31</title>
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		<dc:creator>one of me &#187; the home of paul turnbull &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  Why Powered USB Is Needed, Part 1: The Short History of USB Â» Ad Terras Per Aspera (tags: USB Ports Computer_History) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25320</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"This plug was about an inch in diameter, round, and had 5 pins"

It is about half an inch in diameter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This plug was about an inch in diameter, round, and had 5 pins&#8221;</p>
<p>It is about half an inch in diameter.</p>
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		<title>By: Kendall Sears</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25291</link>
		<dc:creator>Kendall Sears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The IBM-PC wasn't even close to being the first home computer to take off:  that was the Commodore 64.

Also, there were MANY computers as far back as 1979 that were the size of the IBM PC (or smaller) that had external and detachable keyboards.  I was there, I was programming them.

Please learn your facts before stating this type of mis-information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The IBM-PC wasn&#8217;t even close to being the first home computer to take off:  that was the Commodore 64.</p>
<p>Also, there were MANY computers as far back as 1979 that were the size of the IBM PC (or smaller) that had external and detachable keyboards.  I was there, I was programming them.</p>
<p>Please learn your facts before stating this type of mis-information.</p>
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		<title>By: bratwizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bratwizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HEY SKIP! A little bit of HISTORY there... Apple WASNT EVEN ON THE SCENE YET when the Altair made its debut in 1974. I remember getting mine in 1975. It took forever for all the little parts and pieces to arrive and you had to hand-assemble the thing (meaning solder the chips to the boards and everything). But they were GREAT computers. And the rich kids got the IMSAI (a la "War Games") I always wanted one of those. But there were still other computers that were available even before that- such as the Mark-8 (Plans only, you had to track down the parts and build it yourself), or the KIM-1, of about the same vintage as the Altair, an early 6502-based system. I had one of those too-- lots of fun. There was a THRIVING personal computer market BEFORE the IBM or APPLE computers came along. All those companies really did was a good job at "consumer-izing" them and marketing them. Kudos to them, don't want to take away from their accomplishments-- but to remind that there were lots of other systems around and the market was truly established long before either IBM or APPLE hit the scene. BTW-- Bill Gates and Paul Allen both got their start at MITS, the company that produced the Altair. How's that for history?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HEY SKIP! A little bit of HISTORY there&#8230; Apple WASNT EVEN ON THE SCENE YET when the Altair made its debut in 1974. I remember getting mine in 1975. It took forever for all the little parts and pieces to arrive and you had to hand-assemble the thing (meaning solder the chips to the boards and everything). But they were GREAT computers. And the rich kids got the IMSAI (a la &#8220;War Games&#8221;) I always wanted one of those. But there were still other computers that were available even before that- such as the Mark-8 (Plans only, you had to track down the parts and build it yourself), or the KIM-1, of about the same vintage as the Altair, an early 6502-based system. I had one of those too&#8211; lots of fun. There was a THRIVING personal computer market BEFORE the IBM or APPLE computers came along. All those companies really did was a good job at &#8220;consumer-izing&#8221; them and marketing them. Kudos to them, don&#8217;t want to take away from their accomplishments&#8211; but to remind that there were lots of other systems around and the market was truly established long before either IBM or APPLE hit the scene. BTW&#8211; Bill Gates and Paul Allen both got their start at MITS, the company that produced the Altair. How&#8217;s that for history?</p>
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		<title>By: bratwizard</title>
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		<dc:creator>bratwizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still use a scanner to this day, A cannon scanner (which is a mustek scanner under the hood) that draws all of its power from the USB port. And it does a fabulous job scanning and is very quick too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still use a scanner to this day, A cannon scanner (which is a mustek scanner under the hood) that draws all of its power from the USB port. And it does a fabulous job scanning and is very quick too.</p>
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		<title>By: bratwizard</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25279</link>
		<dc:creator>bratwizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why stop at the IBM PC's? There were yet even earlier personal computers, such as the Altair, IMSAI (S-100) examples running CP/M, and Rat Shack, and others-- that all had their significant contributions to the modern world of desktop computing. I hate it when people think IBM hung the moon. Ever wonder WHY all those printers had a "Centronics" style connector??? They were POPULAR BEFORE IBM made personal computers. If you can believe that! Youngsters... what can you do??? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why stop at the IBM PC&#8217;s? There were yet even earlier personal computers, such as the Altair, IMSAI (S-100) examples running CP/M, and Rat Shack, and others&#8211; that all had their significant contributions to the modern world of desktop computing. I hate it when people think IBM hung the moon. Ever wonder WHY all those printers had a &#8220;Centronics&#8221; style connector??? They were POPULAR BEFORE IBM made personal computers. If you can believe that! Youngsters&#8230; what can you do??? <img src='http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rudolph</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25278</link>
		<dc:creator>Rudolph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skip -- the original Apple ][ didn't have any standardized ports either. Things were usually connected by the means of ribbon cables fed out from holes in the back of the machine. Apple didn't start standardizing ports until the Macintosh and the Apple //c, both well after the IBM PC came out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skip &#8212; the original Apple ][ didn&#8217;t have any standardized ports either. Things were usually connected by the means of ribbon cables fed out from holes in the back of the machine. Apple didn&#8217;t start standardizing ports until the Macintosh and the Apple //c, both well after the IBM PC came out.</p>
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		<title>By: Espen</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25268</link>
		<dc:creator>Espen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pardon my creaking memory here, but "the AT keyboard port1, named after the IBM PC-AT family of computers. This plug was about an inch in diameter, round, and had 5 pins." sounds a bit big to me. I seem to remember that the diameter of that plug was about 15mm (millimeter), which sounds like half an inch to me. The PS/2 keyboard port was more like 8-9 mm which is about 1/4 inch, isn't it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pardon my creaking memory here, but &#8220;the AT keyboard port1, named after the IBM PC-AT family of computers. This plug was about an inch in diameter, round, and had 5 pins.&#8221; sounds a bit big to me. I seem to remember that the diameter of that plug was about 15mm (millimeter), which sounds like half an inch to me. The PS/2 keyboard port was more like 8-9 mm which is about 1/4 inch, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: pligg.com</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25267</link>
		<dc:creator>pligg.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Why Powered USB Is Needed and Why is it going to fail...&lt;/strong&gt;

The Universal Serial Bus, or USB, is right now the most common serial peripheral bus in existence. Allowing all the most common devices to connect to your computer, to each other, through hubs, and now even wirelessly USB has become the dominant method...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why Powered USB Is Needed and Why is it going to fail&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>The Universal Serial Bus, or USB, is right now the most common serial peripheral bus in existence. Allowing all the most common devices to connect to your computer, to each other, through hubs, and now even wirelessly USB has become the dominant method&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bubax</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25263</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#124; And the sad part is I actually had people look over the article looking for typos.

We're not looking for 'em, we just find 'em. :)

&#124; Between the two parts this is like the fourth for fifth.

More errors to follow:

&#62; This plug [AT keyboard port] was about an inch in diameter, round, and had 5 pins.

With ~2.5 cm it is rather huge a port, isn't it?

&#62; PS/2 ports that used two small half-inch 6 pin plugs

And ~1.3 cm is rather big, too, concerning PS/2.

You mean centimeters[1], not inches.

[1] For just giving a qualitative impression about their sizes, the guessed numerical values are OK; for the records, I just plugged them out and measured and found their diameters are about 13 mm and 9 mm, respectively.

Just for the records: Don't worry, it still makes for an interesting reading. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>| And the sad part is I actually had people look over the article looking for typos.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re not looking for &#8216;em, we just find &#8216;em. <img src='http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>| Between the two parts this is like the fourth for fifth.</p>
<p>More errors to follow:</p>
<p>&gt; This plug [AT keyboard port] was about an inch in diameter, round, and had 5 pins.</p>
<p>With ~2.5 cm it is rather huge a port, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>&gt; PS/2 ports that used two small half-inch 6 pin plugs</p>
<p>And ~1.3 cm is rather big, too, concerning PS/2.</p>
<p>You mean centimeters[1], not inches.</p>
<p>[1] For just giving a qualitative impression about their sizes, the guessed numerical values are OK; for the records, I just plugged them out and measured and found their diameters are about 13 mm and 9 mm, respectively.</p>
<p>Just for the records: Don&#8217;t worry, it still makes for an interesting reading. <img src='http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Eric K</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25253</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Long before worrying about power over USB, I'd like to see more USB devices equipped with internal storage space for drivers.  When a MicroSD card the size of a thumbnail can hold a gigabyte or two and cost around $20, there's really no excuse for devices not carrying around their own drivers in internal, updatable storage.

Imagine if you could just plug your USB device into ANY computer with ANY OS and the drivers for it, no matter what your device is, are right there.  Windows, MAC, Linux, whatever.  All on the same internal gigabyte of storage in their own directories where the host computer should know where to look.

Additionally, if you update your drivers on one computer, the next time you plug that device into another computer of the same operating system, updated drivers will be immediately available rather than require a download.

Last, but not least, Windows needs to learn how to understand that a USB device plugged into one USB port is the same as if it were plugged into a different port.  Too many times, moving a device from port to port causes Windows to demand the drivers again and prompt the user for all the installation options.

Installation should be primarily a painless, invisible process.  Plug it in and it works.  And that's it. 

You get the USB standard to include drivers in internal storage and to have invisible installation processes so clueless users don't have to know what their doing to plug in a new gadget in ant port they happen to choose and your new standard will take off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long before worrying about power over USB, I&#8217;d like to see more USB devices equipped with internal storage space for drivers.  When a MicroSD card the size of a thumbnail can hold a gigabyte or two and cost around $20, there&#8217;s really no excuse for devices not carrying around their own drivers in internal, updatable storage.</p>
<p>Imagine if you could just plug your USB device into ANY computer with ANY OS and the drivers for it, no matter what your device is, are right there.  Windows, MAC, Linux, whatever.  All on the same internal gigabyte of storage in their own directories where the host computer should know where to look.</p>
<p>Additionally, if you update your drivers on one computer, the next time you plug that device into another computer of the same operating system, updated drivers will be immediately available rather than require a download.</p>
<p>Last, but not least, Windows needs to learn how to understand that a USB device plugged into one USB port is the same as if it were plugged into a different port.  Too many times, moving a device from port to port causes Windows to demand the drivers again and prompt the user for all the installation options.</p>
<p>Installation should be primarily a painless, invisible process.  Plug it in and it works.  And that&#8217;s it. </p>
<p>You get the USB standard to include drivers in internal storage and to have invisible installation processes so clueless users don&#8217;t have to know what their doing to plug in a new gadget in ant port they happen to choose and your new standard will take off.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Kephart</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25242</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Kephart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think the IBM PC was "the first home computer that took off."
Wasn't the Commodore-64 the first home computer that really took off? I always thought that, back in the 1980's, the C-64 was the most popular home computer there was at the time. I didn't think the PC overtook the Commodore as the most popular home computer until they stopped producing the C64 and the more affordable PC clones appeared.
(I used Commodore computers until 1995, even developing my first web site on the Internet using a Commodore-128.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the IBM PC was &#8220;the first home computer that took off.&#8221;<br />
Wasn&#8217;t the Commodore-64 the first home computer that really took off? I always thought that, back in the 1980&#8217;s, the C-64 was the most popular home computer there was at the time. I didn&#8217;t think the PC overtook the Commodore as the most popular home computer until they stopped producing the C64 and the more affordable PC clones appeared.<br />
(I used Commodore computers until 1995, even developing my first web site on the Internet using a Commodore-128.)</p>
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		<title>By: Will Godfrey</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25237</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Godfrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You forget that the greatest benefit of RS232 (from and industry viewpoint) is its utter simplicity. Currently I run a control system at 9600 baud with leads of up to 150 Metres using standard 3 core mains cable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forget that the greatest benefit of RS232 (from and industry viewpoint) is its utter simplicity. Currently I run a control system at 9600 baud with leads of up to 150 Metres using standard 3 core mains cable.</p>
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		<title>By: Yakko</title>
		<link>http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2007/03/29/why-powered-usb-is-needed-part-1-the-short-history-of-usb#comment-25226</link>
		<dc:creator>Yakko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"even some document scanners used SCSI as well."

wow, i feel old now.  This is no rumor, in fact many scsi scanners are available today.

This Microtek only has firewire and SCSI interfaces, no USB.

http://www.microtekusa.com/as120tf.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;even some document scanners used SCSI as well.&#8221;</p>
<p>wow, i feel old now.  This is no rumor, in fact many scsi scanners are available today.</p>
<p>This Microtek only has firewire and SCSI interfaces, no USB.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.microtekusa.com/as120tf.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.microtekusa.com/as120tf.html</a></p>
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