Comments on: Project: Liberate Freenode, and I need your help! http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help Transmissions from the Little Blue Marble Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:24:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Patrick McFarland http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-1427 Patrick McFarland Thu, 21 Sep 2006 01:12:52 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-1427 Andre, I wrote my <a href="http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/09/16/the-liberation-of-freenode-final-entry/" rel="nofollow">final Liberate Freenode post</a> a few days ago. I have no clue what is going to happen, but I hope something good becomes of this. Andre, I wrote my final Liberate Freenode post a few days ago.

I have no clue what is going to happen, but I hope something good becomes of this.

]]> By: Andre Guibert de Bruet http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-1425 Andre Guibert de Bruet Wed, 20 Sep 2006 19:08:46 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-1425 I stumbled on this one rather late too. Rob Levin has passed on. My best wishes go to his son and wife. I am sort of wondering what will happen to the funds that have been raised. I would love to see the opening of closed commercial projects, as was the case with the Blender project, a while back. More importantly, what will now happen to Freenode? Will it become what it should have been in the first place (What OFTC currently is), a network run by volunteers without any financial agenda? I stumbled on this one rather late too.

Rob Levin has passed on. My best wishes go to his son and wife.

I am sort of wondering what will happen to the funds that have been raised. I would love to see the opening of closed commercial projects, as was the case with the Blender project, a while back.

More importantly, what will now happen to Freenode? Will it become what it should have been in the first place (What OFTC currently is), a network run by volunteers without any financial agenda?

]]> By: Patrick McFarland http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-325 Patrick McFarland Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:22:19 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-325 If he forgot taxes, he screwed up somewhere. Unless hes actually trying to run this through PDPC, which, as its not a PDPC project, and is not helping PDPC, hes committing two types of fraud with one simple action. However, I'm thinking he just forgot. If he forgot taxes, he screwed up somewhere. Unless hes actually trying to run this through PDPC, which, as its not a PDPC project, and is not helping PDPC, hes committing two types of fraud with one simple action.

However, I’m thinking he just forgot.

]]> By: Rik van Riel http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-322 Rik van Riel Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:15:06 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-322 If he succeeds in raising the $312,000 and spends it, chances are the IRS will want near 30% of his income. He'll need closer to $400,000 if he wants to buy his goodies and pay his taxes... I've had my differences with lilo in the past, but I sure hope he doesn't dig a $100k hole with the IRS for himself. Nobody deserves that. If he succeeds in raising the $312,000 and spends it, chances are the IRS will want near 30% of his income. He’ll need closer to $400,000 if he wants to buy his goodies and pay his taxes…

I’ve had my differences with lilo in the past, but I sure hope he doesn’t dig a $100k hole with the IRS for himself. Nobody deserves that.

]]> By: hyperion http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-225 hyperion Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:18:01 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-225 I happened on this blog a bit late but in any case, Patrick you should emphasize that Rob Levin does not run freenode at all. The network runs on servers and uses bandwidth donated for free, hardware/OS maintenance is done by the IT staff of the server donor organisations, and the remaining tasks of direct IRC maintenance, if necessary at all (it's mostly automated), are done by other volunteers for free as was the programming work. I just wish people realised that Rob Levin does practically nothing for the network, and more importantly: Freenode would continue to run without any funding because running it involves no costs at all! "Running" an IRC network is a hobby and it is absurd to camouflage it as a profession. I happened on this blog a bit late but in any case, Patrick you should emphasize that Rob Levin does not run freenode at all. The network runs on servers and uses bandwidth donated for free, hardware/OS maintenance is done by the IT staff of the server donor organisations, and the remaining tasks of direct IRC maintenance, if necessary at all (it’s mostly automated), are done by other volunteers for free as was the programming work.

I just wish people realised that Rob Levin does practically nothing for the network, and more importantly: Freenode would continue to run without any funding because running it involves no costs at all! “Running” an IRC network is a hobby and it is absurd to camouflage it as a profession.

]]> By: Quinton Reeves http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-202 Quinton Reeves Wed, 07 Jun 2006 02:39:58 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-202 The part I don't understand is why people defend his behaviour. Is he that good of an actor that his feigned 'neutrality' actually suckers them? I have a good article I wrote prior to my leaving freenode a while back that you may be interested in at http://qreeves.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-levins-feenode.html which shows his true nature. You'd be surprise how many people out there would support your cause, but simply don't care anymore because they've would rather just give up and leave freenode. The part I don’t understand is why people defend his behaviour. Is he that good of an actor that his feigned ‘neutrality’ actually suckers them? I have a good article I wrote prior to my leaving freenode a while back that you may be interested in at http://qreeves.blogspot.com/2006/04/rob-levins-feenode.html which shows his true nature. You’d be surprise how many people out there would support your cause, but simply don’t care anymore because they’ve would rather just give up and leave freenode.

]]> By: kkkkoaaa http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-178 kkkkoaaa Sat, 27 May 2006 07:31:26 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-178 Keep a good job up! <a href="http://quick-adult-links.com" rel="nofollow"></a> Keep a good job up!

]]> By: Patrick McFarland http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-144 Patrick McFarland Fri, 05 May 2006 18:20:56 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-144 No, its closer to, "Egad! We have to fire this academic because he has a side project, and is using our university's good name to confuse people into thinking this is a project of the university!" No, its closer to, “Egad! We have to fire this academic because he has a side project, and is using our university’s good name to confuse people into thinking this is a project of the university!”

]]> By: Asheesh Laroia http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-143 Asheesh Laroia Fri, 05 May 2006 18:05:00 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-143 This is like saying, "Egad! We have to fire this academic because he has a side project and is using our university's good name toward his own personal side project!" Spinhome sounds cool, and I'm grateful to Rob Levin for running FreeNode for all of us for these years. If he uses that name he's earned as part of introducing himself for other projects and ventures, that's not only okay with me, it's perfectly logical. This is like saying, “Egad! We have to fire this academic because he has a side project and is using our university’s good name toward his own personal side project!”

Spinhome sounds cool, and I’m grateful to Rob Levin for running FreeNode for all of us for these years. If he uses that name he’s earned as part of introducing himself for other projects and ventures, that’s not only okay with me, it’s perfectly logical.

]]> By: Ad Terras Per Aspera » Blog Archive » The Liberation of Freenode, Part 3 http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-129 Ad Terras Per Aspera » Blog Archive » The Liberation of Freenode, Part 3 Tue, 02 May 2006 04:16:40 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-129 [...] So, Rob has responded to my call to free Freenode, and bring it back into the control of the community, on his blog. [...] [...] So, Rob has responded to my call to free Freenode, and bring it back into the control of the community, on his blog. [...]

]]> By: Patrick McFarland http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-128 Patrick McFarland Tue, 02 May 2006 03:04:40 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-128 I'm about to moderate three comments through (two of which are trackbacks/pingbacks). I'd like to mention, unlike Rob on either of his blogs, I actually use my blog to foster communication and discussion. Rob, however, deletes any comments that don't agree with his view of the world. So, Rob, where is that sense of Free Speech? I’m about to moderate three comments through (two of which are trackbacks/pingbacks). I’d like to mention, unlike Rob on either of his blogs, I actually use my blog to foster communication and discussion. Rob, however, deletes any comments that don’t agree with his view of the world.

So, Rob, where is that sense of Free Speech?

]]> By: spinhome http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-127 spinhome Mon, 01 May 2006 18:02:06 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-127 <strong>Thanks, Dossy Shiobara...</strong> Dossy Shiobara kindly wrote this entry about the Spinhome Project on his blog. Dossy, I really appreciate it. Folks like Patrick McFarland are just an unavoidable part of doing my job. I've never quite understood the motivation... Thanks, Dossy Shiobara…

Dossy Shiobara kindly wrote this

entry

about the Spinhome Project on his blog. Dossy, I really appreciate it. Folks like

Patrick McFarland

are just an unavoidable part of doing my job. I’ve never quite understood the motivation…

]]> By: Dossy's Blog http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-126 Dossy's Blog Mon, 01 May 2006 16:39:23 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-126 <strong>Supporting Rob Levin is like supporting the PDPC...</strong> Rob Levin, the founder of PDPC (the Peer-Directed Projects Center) blogs about being under attack from Patrick McFarland. You can read Patrick's side here, where I left a comment. Since I'm concerned that the comment won't be published, I want...... Supporting Rob Levin is like supporting the PDPC…

Rob Levin, the founder of PDPC (the Peer-Directed Projects Center) blogs about being under attack from Patrick McFarland. You can read Patrick’s side here, where I left a comment. Since I’m concerned that the comment won’t be published, I want……

]]> By: Dossy Shiobara http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help#comment-125 Dossy Shiobara Mon, 01 May 2006 16:27:29 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/04/29/project-liberate-freenode-and-i-need-your-help/#comment-125 If you think raising funds to support Rob Levin through the Spinhome project doesn't benefit PDPC, Freenode and their benefactors, then you aren't smart enough to successfully "liberate" the Freenode IRC network and PDPC. Rob has contributed a good portion of his life, has sacrificed much, has been living close to the poverty level supporting a spouse and a young child on the generosity of the community, and has persevered much grief heaped upon him by others who haven't even accomplished a small fraction of what Rob has already done. Supporting such a person to enable them to continue giving what he already gives selflessly is a win-win for everyone involved. If you have real, tangible criticisms of PDPC and/or Freenode (or even Rob Levin, himself), I suggest you think them through and express them in an intelligible way. While everyone has their emotional moments, generally adults respond better to reasonable people more than they do to ad hominem attacks. The way you are currently going about things will accomplish very little. If you think raising funds to support Rob Levin through the Spinhome project doesn’t benefit PDPC, Freenode and their benefactors, then you aren’t smart enough to successfully “liberate” the Freenode IRC network and PDPC. Rob has contributed a good portion of his life, has sacrificed much, has been living close to the poverty level supporting a spouse and a young child on the generosity of the community, and has persevered much grief heaped upon him by others who haven’t even accomplished a small fraction of what Rob has already done. Supporting such a person to enable them to continue giving what he already gives selflessly is a win-win for everyone involved.

If you have real, tangible criticisms of PDPC and/or Freenode (or even Rob Levin, himself), I suggest you think them through and express them in an intelligible way. While everyone has their emotional moments, generally adults respond better to reasonable people more than they do to ad hominem attacks.

The way you are currently going about things will accomplish very little.

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