Comments on: Evangelion’s Positron Rifle, and Future Japan http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan Transmissions from the Little Blue Marble Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:22:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Patrick McFarland http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/comment-page-1#comment-132175 Patrick McFarland Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:26:29 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/#comment-132175 It was implied they have something similar to room temperature super-conductors to move the electricity with. I mean, its Eva, you don't question the giant robots, but you question the positron rifle? It was implied they have something similar to room temperature super-conductors to move the electricity with. I mean, its Eva, you don’t question the giant robots, but you question the positron rifle?

]]> By: NinjaBob http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/comment-page-1#comment-132174 NinjaBob Fri, 11 Dec 2009 04:33:24 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/#comment-132174 I watched the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 1.0 where Japan's entire power grid was all connected and funneled to the positron rifle platform. Temporarily disregarding numeric discrepancies, is it even physically possible to shunt that much electricity through so few power lines all to one location without something melting or exploding? Oh yeah, btw, in real life, attempting to fire a positron beam in atmosphere would be like putting a grenade launcher up against a wall and firing it point blank. I watched the scene in Rebuild of Evangelion 1.0 where Japan’s entire power grid was all connected and funneled to the positron rifle platform. Temporarily disregarding numeric discrepancies, is it even physically possible to shunt that much electricity through so few power lines all to one location without something melting or exploding?

Oh yeah, btw, in real life, attempting to fire a positron beam in atmosphere would be like putting a grenade launcher up against a wall and firing it point blank.

]]> By: Leif http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/comment-page-1#comment-131186 Leif Wed, 24 Jun 2009 05:28:51 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/#comment-131186 Well, actually, he does say 180 KW. At least he does in the version I have, both subbed and dubbed. Platinum version. Well, actually, he does say 180 KW.
At least he does in the version I have, both subbed and dubbed.
Platinum version.

]]> By: agentsmith http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/comment-page-1#comment-125597 agentsmith Sat, 01 Mar 2008 06:36:57 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/#comment-125597 116 million kW, or 1.16x10^11 W are available from Japan every hour. So, you need 180 million W, divide this by the # available, and you get the number of hours needed to draw sufficient energy from the grid. Multiply by 60mins/hr, again by 60s/min... and MY calculations say 5.586 seconds are needed to generate the required 1.8x10^8 W So, they were TOTALLY delaying in order to aim correctly. 116 million kW, or 1.16×10^11 W are available from Japan every hour. So, you need 180 million W, divide this by the # available, and you get the number of hours needed to draw sufficient energy from the grid. Multiply by 60mins/hr, again by 60s/min… and MY calculations say 5.586 seconds are needed to generate the required 1.8×10^8 W So, they were TOTALLY delaying in order to aim correctly.

]]> By: Mecha Image Of The Day » Archives » Evangelion: The Positron Rifle http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/comment-page-1#comment-125596 Mecha Image Of The Day » Archives » Evangelion: The Positron Rifle Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:00:33 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/#comment-125596 [...] My famous (and greatly flawed, see the comments) post on the power usage of the Positron Rifle. [...] [...] My famous (and greatly flawed, see the comments) post on the power usage of the Positron Rifle. [...]

]]> By: Grnch http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/comment-page-1#comment-27390 Grnch Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:17:56 +0000 http://www.adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/03/04/evangelions-positron-rifle-and-future-japan/#comment-27390 There is a glaring error in your math. You quote Makoto Hyuga as saying that "it will take atleast 180 million WATTS", but then you use 180 million KILOWATTS in your calculation. You are off by 3 orders of magnitude right from the start. Hence, if we accept the rest of your calculations the actual needed power would be more like 17 million kWh per hour (btw, why kWh per hour? the "hour" unit cancels out so it's simply kW), which is apparently well within Japan's current capabilities according to your data. But there is a problem with the second formula too, you are actually calculating as if 180 million kWh were produced in the time-span of 37 seconds, but the unit in the quote is not watt-hours, it's watts. So, instead of that formula, it comes down to a simple comparison between 180 million watts needed power vs 116 million kilowatts provided power, no further math needed (so basically only a tiny fraction of total Japan's power would be needed to operate the laser). And even if the laser was indeed 180 million kW, it's still far from the 150x factor you calculated, it's more like 1.5x (180kW/116kW), which looks quite realistic. P.S. I don't even know how I stumbled upon this entry... too bored I guess. There is a glaring error in your math. You quote Makoto Hyuga as saying that “it will take atleast 180 million WATTS”, but then you use 180 million KILOWATTS in your calculation.

You are off by 3 orders of magnitude right from the start. Hence, if we accept the rest of your calculations the actual needed power would be more like 17 million kWh per hour (btw, why kWh per hour? the “hour” unit cancels out so it’s simply kW), which is apparently well within Japan’s current capabilities according to your data.

But there is a problem with the second formula too, you are actually calculating as if 180 million kWh were produced in the time-span of 37 seconds, but the unit in the quote is not watt-hours, it’s watts.

So, instead of that formula, it comes down to a simple comparison between 180 million watts needed power vs 116 million kilowatts provided power, no further math needed (so basically only a tiny fraction of total Japan’s power would be needed to operate the laser).

And even if the laser was indeed 180 million kW, it’s still far from the 150x factor you calculated, it’s more like 1.5x (180kW/116kW), which looks quite realistic.

P.S. I don’t even know how I stumbled upon this entry… too bored I guess.

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